AN ODYSSEY INTO THE BOSOM OF AMERICA

es. I know. It's tough to keep your eyes down here on this text. Your natural inclination is to stare into the glorious cleavage that is just above these words. That is Chelsea Charms, who is about to burst forth on newsstands all over the USA in a little more than a few weeks. The lucky photographer who took this picture in the brief few seconds when his eyes were not glazed over was Elliot James. Elliot James is the author of the long-running (7 plus years) column called "The Boob Beat" which is featured monthly in SCORE Magazine.

Elliot and I hunkered down last month to contemplate and examine and talk about hooters. It was quite a lively dialogue, which actually was more of a monologue. I fed Elliot some interesting questions, and then, I listened. Everything was soon revealed about the big breast industry. [If you missed Part One, you can read it here.]

So gather near and pay attention as yours truly is ever so happy to have his column under the shelf of Chelsea's huge bosom, and to have a lively interviewee to talk with. Elliot James talks to us about living in Boobtown, USA, a.k.a. Las Vegas. We will hear about Elliot's own interviewing techniques. Which is good because you never know when you might find yourself talking bras with a loquacious and extremely busty feature dancer at a club near you. Finally Elliot and I get into some hot topics. Be sure to hear about Elliot James' stunning neighbors like Minka and Deena, and his equally stunning views on COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT. He really peels the onion and takes us deep into the core of the subject. Read on...

JMM: I know Deena Duos and Minka both live in Las Vegas. Do you see much of them? What are they like when they're not working?

EJ: They're busy. I'm busy. No one has the time to hang out. Deena just earned her certified nurse's degree this past summer, which took a lot of hard, long study. She's a very private person with a kindly spiritual nature. Has a lot of pets. In fact, I never knew she'd been living here for four years! Duh! It's only a few months ago that DD re-emerged in the public eye due to her starting a basic web-site. She seems to have no current interest in shooting again for the magazine but things change rapidly in this business, so who knows? I did manage to do an update about her in the December 99 SCORE. Deena emails me late at night when she can't sleep. I email her back a "go-to-sleep-DD" greeting card.

Now and then Minka will invite me to dinner at her house across town from me. Lovely home. You take your shoes off when you enter, in the Asian traditional. Her tennis trophies are on display, from her years in Korea. She's also a wonderful cook. I've always had friends of different nationalities and backgrounds. So I love the ethnic style of eating where all the dishes are laid out in one shot, and you just eat and sweat and eat until you're ready to explode like the insanely fat guy in the Python movie, The Meaning of Life. A Cuban family I bonded with years ago had their meals like that. And Minka lays out some spread, pardon the expression, of the traditional Korean dishes. Before I go over, I usually stop by Korea Town near my home and pick up some Korean treats that the regular supermarkets don't stock. I love dinner at Minka's. They're both real sweethearts, Minka and DD. But as I said earlier, they have their lives, I have my life. We go our separate ways.

JMM: Any other feature performers live in Vegas?

EJ: Let's see. Lisa Lipps has lived here for quite some time, not far from Minka. Mimi Miyagi lives here. I had dinner with her once at Minka's. Now that was fun. April Hunter lives here--she had a motor home but I think she has a house now. Lori Wagner has lived here for years and used to sing in the lounges. A lesser-known SCORE model named Chrissy Maxx was here but she may have left. A dancer friend said she stopped working at a club named Cheetahs. Gave her my card but never heard from her again so she may have moved. The usual. Vegas is the most transient city in America. They relocate here, they're gone in six months. Maybe she never left because I stumbled across her last week in the Glitter Gulch Club. Elizabeth Starr was a born Vegas local but moved to LA last year in search of a change in her life. We were close friends. BJ Biggs aka Stacy Staxxx still resides here, I believe, but I have no contact with her. I saw her perform her "deep throat" show once. That woman could deep throat the Seattle Space Needle.

Europe DiChan has been here almost a year. She has two residences, here and in Ohio. Originally she and SaRenna moved here together but SaRenna split town a few months later. Lacey Legends has been here two years, I guess. You may have heard of Greta Carlson, she's a famed bondage model with big knockers. A fun lady. Kayla is moving here, she said. She may be here already, I haven't dropped Kayla a line in several weeks. Sofia Staks moved here a couple of years ago. We're pretty chummy and she lives ten minutes away from me. I've been shooting some photo-sets of her for her pay-site, Sofia likes my "eye." She's a doll as a person, very career oriented, and keeps to herself. She'll be in the March 2000 SCORE also, and the pics for that spread were shot by Jeff Marks of Lasting Images in New Jersey. He shot BB Gunns for the January 2000 issue. I feel bad for Sofia because a fucking weasel agent has been making life tough for her the past year, spreading malicious bullshit lies about her to various club owners. Knowing Sofia as I do, God Bless her, she certainly doesn't deserve the behind-the-back stabbing. Lisa Lipps ripped this guy a new asshole publicly on her web site when she found out he was telling club owners that Lisa was overweight. Which, I can assure you, she ain't.

I should emphasize that Vegas is the hooter capital of the world. Lots of plastic surgeons. There are just thousands of women with big tits all over the place here, and not just the house dancers, the cam girls and the escorts. Even women working "regular" jobs have major knockers here. The other day I went to have a flat repaired and the clerk behind the counter was busting out all over. And of course the female tourists. Coo-coo, baby, that's Vegas, to quote Sinatra.

JMM: Any others that you recall?

EJ: Patty Plenty lived in Las Vegas for many years. Two years ago, she moved to LA and shot some "older lady" hardcore tapes. Now she calls herself Patty Please and is selling herself as an S&M mistress. Anyone out there want big-boobed disciplining?

JMM: Doesn't everyone? We'd have a line around all of Las Vegas depending on who was dishing it out...

EJ: Do you recall the name Platinum Peaks? An earlier 90's stripper originally from Canada. She headlined at the Palomino Club in North Las Vegas up to I think 94 or 95, then she just virtually disappeared from the scene. She was awesome, just awesome. There was also a big bust dancer named Sondra Sommers who tried to get a SCORE layout but no dice. She did make it into HBB and Gent. Told me she wouldn't do hardcore, and then later...well, you guessed it. The poor girl really had no luck in her life in Vegas before she drifted to Texas, Florida, and then LA. I hope she's doing all right wherever she is now.

JMM: Broadening our focus for a moment, In your experience, where do most of the big bust models come from. Is there a part of this country, or another country, which seems to provide us with more big tits than others?

EJ: Real or augmented? For the enhanced chests, America is the country. They come from every state, no particular region. For the naturals, the UK wins, hands down. As you know, the John Graham Studios in London have always been the number-one producer of pictorials for SCORE and Voluptuous. Sir John and his guys have photographed them all, including every known American with mega-implants. Maybe it's the humidity in the UK that creates so many naturally large-breasted women: Lorna Morgan (Wales), Linsey McKenzie, Kirstyn, Belinda, Jessica Turner, Carol Brown, Kerry Marie, Linzi (a new one from Liverpool), Gaynor, Vicky, Dawn Phoenix, Lisa Phillips (from Ireland)...the list goes on and on. The UK is the place for tits.

[JMM for a brief moment sees Jenny and Sammie in his mind's eye]

EJ: Going back to the mid 50's and into the 60's, George Harrison Marks was the leading photographer of big tits and the names were Paula Page, Vicky Kennedy, Monique, Marie Devereux (the French name was a moniker; she doubled for Liz Taylor in Cleopatra), Lorraine and many more. These Englishwomen, they own worldwide rights to real, big boobs. They put the gland in England. Marks died two years ago, He lived a wild life. I did his obit in SCORE. There's a company in York, Nostalgia Publications, that bought a lot of material from Marks himself and reprints the stuff. If you're looking for a wife with huge real tits, your odds are great in England.

And now we have a new Dawn, who's from Canada. But we see almost no Canuck bust stars except for the much-worshiped Tiff Towers.

EJ: A tape recorder serves the purpose. I've pondered the use of a videotaped interview but that opens the door to problems. Models have become very proprietary about their images, for reasons we'll get to in a bit. A video camera is going to generate suspicion and mistrust. WHAT am I going to do with the tape? WHO else would see it? WHY do I want to video an interview? WHERE will it wind up? See what I mean? From experience, and not by nature, models learn very quickly to be mistrustful of others in the industry; especially since there are so many male drifters in the adult entertainment business. So I don't need to raise a red flag.

JMM: I see and I agree.

EJ: From day one, I've tried to build a good reputation, not just on behalf of SCORE Group, but for myself. I've always tried to be supportive of the models, no matter their personalities and attitudes. I flirt with them and, truthfully, I look at them as sex objects. But I don't hit on them. John Fox has never gotten a complaint about me, at least, not that I know of. I keep my promises. I send them a comp of the issue the article's in. I keep in touch to find out the response. I'm just a columnist guy. I'm not in a power chair nor do I pretend to be in one for my own personal agenda.

I always joke that I ask women questions that would get me sued for sexual harassment in the real world. Even so I respect them. Because they have guts. Most of the pros admit that they were very nervous their first time naked on stage or in front of a professional cameraman. I admire girls like Casey, Sable, Colt and others like them. They've built strong careers. They've learned to control their fears.

A friend of mine in Florida was supposed to be involved in some project for HBO. I don't know if the producer worked for HBO or if he was an indy producer with a deal with HBO. He came on heavy to her, she wouldn't fuck him, and he had her fired. This is what the girls in this business have to deal with constantly. Maybe 100 other dancers would have fucked him to get it over with and keep the job, but not my friend. She has her principles. She won't be bullied or scammed.

Being a sexual figure in this country still carries this outdated social stigma. The producers of the Jenny Jones show and other talk shows invite all these girls on their programs (for minimum scale) and then set them up to be ridiculed and insulted by idiotic stooges in the audience who can barely get a coherent sentence out. In the long run, though, the exposure is good. People have short memories. The only TV guy who ever produced great, fun shows with big-boobed girls was Richard Bey of WOR-TV in the late 80's, early 90's. I still have the tapes of those shows with Rocki Mountains and others. Too bad I forgot to label them.

JMM: The adult entertainment industry is huge. Between magazines, web-sites, clubs, videos, and escort services, we seem to be constantly made aware of the sexual side of our natures. What is your view on the future of the big-boob segment of the industry? Given that so many models like Busty Dusty, Traci Topps, Tawny Peaks, Toppsy Curvey, and Wendy Whoppers have all undergone breast reduction surgery, are we looking at a downturn in super-sized breasts?

EJ: In my own opinion, we're definitely not in a downturn as far as the desire to see super-sized breasts. Once a boob man, always...

Obviously, a look at SCORE and our competitors the last few years shows that the tidal wave has crested. A lot of the new models are in the 38-40 D or DD range. There's also a resurgence of interest in the naturally chesty models like their predecessors who ruled in the 70s. The past year only a handful of new super-sized girls have emerged. Donita Dunes. Treasure Chest. BB Gunns. Utah. Echo Valley. Teddi Barrett, and the new sensation, Chelsea. The big-boob fans hold the key to their success. It's impossible to guess if the mega-implant trend will come back. So I don't know. But yeah, there is a downturn right now. Yet even with so many getting reductions or just disappearing from the scene, like Platinum, Lisa Chest or Lili Xene (pronounced Zen-nay), there are still plenty of established stars left who'll be with us for quite some time to come.

If you look at an era not in measurements of time, but of its participants, the years 1991-1996 were incredible. Those were the years when Mr. Graham was bringing them to the UK by the ton, or shooting them in Palm Springs or the Bahamas. Those days are over. I don't want to make them sound like Dodge muscle cars but the girls of that time in their prime are the classic SCORE models. They had an aura. And the ones still in the public eye retain that aura.

JMM: Tell us about your web site, Elliot.

EJ: It's more a personal homepage than a web site. A scrapbook, a chronicle of some of the stuff I've done in SCORE and Leg Sex magazines. I have no goal to make a dime with it. There's no nudity. It's just a free place to visit and see what's going in one small corner of the expansive SCORE universe. I'm always screwing around with it, when I have a moment, adding something from my personal albums or pics that didn't get into the column. It's been filling up over time. It's also an homage of sorts to the models I've profiled, friends I've met through working for SCORE, some of the crew at SCORE HQ. I include links to a bunch of web sites. It's just a kick, an electronic version of a personal scrapbook.

I also have its signature on my email letters and that helps to introduce myself to someone who doesn't know who I am. Because who knows or cares who a men's magazine guy is? Who reads a masthead or byline in men's magazine? No one until they are looking to make a sale. So it's been beneficial in that respect. They can go into the homepage and see some background on me.

JMM: There appears to be a growing concern about copyright infringement. Certain models are fighting tooth and nail about protecting their rights. Any comments about that?

EJ: Now we walk into the minefield. Hollywood and the music industry have been battling with the pirates for years, but they try to stop the sale of physical objects sold on street corners or under the counter. CDs, bootleg movies. The Internet is completely different. Here we're dealing with electronic images posted on one of the most incredible inventions ever, the Web.

JMM: The Web is home, sweet home, for BEhavior!

EJ: And the day is coming soon when the Internet will be wireless and more TV like. It's a universe where anonymity flourishes and where personalities are altered because of that anonymity. I know a lap-dancer here -- gives great lap -- who didn't want to pose nude for any magazines or even in private, whatsoever, not even topless. A year later, she's got the cam site and sucks off her boyfriend while she's handcuffed and wearing a blindfold; and all of that for just $16 dollars a month. That's not what he pays. That's what she charges her members. The web changes people.

The Internet attracts copyright violators like a pickpocket's convention. Hereafter when I use the word pix, I mean copyrighted photos that members of a commercial web site pay to look at and download for their personal consumption, emphasis on the term personal consumption. And these pix are, or should be, embossed with its owner's identification. There are basically two types of violators in my book. First is the obsessive fan. He is compelled to lift web pix from its legal owner. As you know well, he then compulsively posts the pix on newsgroups, or even worse, creates a cloned site. They may justify their actions by claiming they're helping to publicize that model or that company. But it can't be justified any more than someone can justify stealing milk bottles from their neighbor's doorstep. There is a misguided sense of community and wanting to share with others that the web generates. Sharing is fine, but pay for that milk before you hand the bottle to your pal. And this misguided sense of fandom creates a lot of financial and emotional damage.

JMM: Some are even called 'shrines' which represents the ultimate in 'worship'.

EJ: The other type of pirate is the one who lifts pix for his own pay site, cloaking the content with a membership fee or uses one of those annoying age verification systems. Both are wreaking havoc on the legitimate creators and owners of the pix. Havoc. And both types of pirates just don't give a shit because of this secure feeling of anonymity the web fosters. Until they get caught like chicken thieves.

Some of your readers may say, "Relax. You are being overly dramatic." No, I am dead serious. Try shooting and paying your own models, and see what a difficult business it really is. And then monitor your own feelings when a phantom copies your images for his purposes.

JMM: Can you spell R-I-P-O-F-F?

EJ: Some cases in point here: Minka and Kayla Kleevage, whose pay sites are being raped. A strong word, but my feeling. It's worse than a hand dipping into their purses. In Kayla's situation, some of the shit smeared the free bbs on the site of Melonie Charm, who is a boobie buddy of mine and an innocent victim of a few people who posted on her bbs. They were posting Kleevco's pix of Chelsea Charms, pix that cost Kayla a lot of money to produce, or they were posting links to pirate sites containing these pix. Kayla herself went on Mel's bbs, begging these people to stop. I finally jumped in when some anonymous motherfucker posted a vicious insult about Kayla personally. I won't stand by when some bully makes filthy remarks about her. It was a perfect example of how so many web-surfers are filled with malice and anger, but only have the balls to attack people on the Internet, hiding behind one or more email addresses. As a result of the Chelsea mess, Melonie has rightfully put her foot down and will delete posted pix that have no business on her bbs. The entire situation was very embarrassing to Mel, because she's very supportive of other big boobed models. One of the guys who created his own Chelsea site from Kayla's pix has since apologized and erased it.

Believe me, the counterfeiting and distribution of their pix has Minka and Kayla extremely upset and I wish the people behind it would stop and think about what they are doing. Would they want it done to themselves? Of course not. Some forms of crime are committed out of emotional outbursts. Some are premeditated. Copyright violation is premeditated. There is no justification for stealing other people's property, not even blind worship of a favorite model.

When I find a suspicious site that has pix with our green SCORE Group shield, I email the page to our webmaster and he takes over. And I have found quite a few. I look at a lot of the ever-mushrooming so-called free big bust sites. They're pieces of shit, a bunch of lifted pix and links all over the fucking screen. So many links that you don't even know where the actual site begins. Total chaos. But these are the chump change sites. I look for the sites that post more extensive sets of SCORELAND pics.

Every legal owner of a legitimate site is facing this situation, from the magazines with web sites to the individual photographers who have a site as a secondary business. As I said, no one cares if someone downloads pix to enjoy at home. That's one of the benefits of a paid membership. We offer that. But when it comes to smearing the pix all over the web, then our legal department takes action.

To try to fix the leak, some owners are providing sample pix and banner links to a pirate they find. It's a form of "if I can't stop you, at least I'll make you a junior associate of sorts." That's one way to satisfy the compulsions a pirate has.

A few months ago, a model called me, in tears. She found a site on web1000 that was literally a clone of her site. I made a few calls, the guy shut it down a day later. He was just a fan but not a real fan. Because a real fan wouldn't do that to someone he cared about.

The new spider technology may help things a lot. You probably know more about it than I do.

JMM: No, I don't. But I can presume you mean a web-tracker of a sort, to keep track of copyrighted items.

EJ: The question of morphing copyrighted pix and posting them is another matter. But it is not as problematic as the straight lifting and posting of pix. I'm not a fan of morphing at all although I can understand the obvious attraction.

There's another situation, much different from photo infringement. It's the subject of domain name registration. It's affected several models who have been in SCORE. There's a guy in New York who's registered the names of big-bust models as his own domain names. What intent is behind it? Money. Re-sale. This is more a matter of ethics than legal infringement, from the facts I know. Because I don't think these girls ever trademarked their stage names. Which is a good idea for new girls. He's registered dozens of names including Deena Duos, Busty BriAnna, Niki Knockers and Lisa Chest. That's why BriAnna's site is tntits.com and DD's is deenaduo.com. I just can't see doing that to a girl. But this guy did. If you go to swhois, you'll see his name. I believe Dawn Stone paid him off to get the legal ownership rights to use dawnstone.com on the Net. Yeah, he grabbed hers too.

Pre-web, models posed for a mag, signed a release, got their dough and went their merry way. Today, with nearly everyone having a web-site -- some great, some primitive, whatever the quality -- the models have become much more concerned about their pictures than they ever were. And because of the web, quite a few have become the type of business-persons they never would have had the chance to be 15 years ago. One of the true visionaries is Danni Ashe, one of the original SCORE Girls. Who could have guessed a honey with great tits would be profiled on the front page of the Wall Street Journal? Not me.

JMM: And which model will be featured in your next column for those of us that read Boob Beat in SCORE?

EJ: The January 2000 SCORE has an interview with Kathy, a Russian hottie living in England who's done SCORE, Voluptuous and Babyface (she's a teacher in that set with a younger chick, shades of the stuff that Uschi Digart used to do). The February 00 issue is mostly my photo-coverage of the Gentlemen's Club Owners Expo at Caesar's Palace. Lotsa SORE, I mean SCORE Girls, 16 photos, 4 tongue shots (not enough to suit me). I wish we had the space for more. I mean more photos, not tongues. But we don't. There's also a profile of Alexis, a big-titted at-home cam girl who likes to suck cock for her members' entertainment pleasure. I mean her membership.

And I have in the can, for later on, a talk with Tanya Hansen, who also made her SCORE debut in the same issue as Sakura. Tanya's from Norway. Lives in Spain. She's a hardcore porn girl. I have since learned that "brysters" is Norwegian for tits.

JMM: Thanks for the talk. I will leave you with one last question: Do you need a full-time aide to carry your lap-top computer around for you?

EJ: Thanks for the offer but my bitch does that for me. Her name is Daisy Beables and she's a 2 year-old beagle. She's already destroyed my couch. God help me if she ever gets into my office. Keep Scoring, Michael!

And that readers, is our cue to bring this to a close. We have been deep into the bosom of the American dream. And we shall never forget our fellow traveler on this journey. Thanks for coming along. Mai Pehn Rai.